Muslim Reaction to Political Cartoons

[Spider-Dan]

run_to_win, take your time and google up some more pictures to add.

Are you sure you're not on dial-up?

[run_to_win]

To use an analogy, you compare pee-wee football to the NFL and I'm evasive because I don't take you seriously?

Sorry, I didn't realize that we're supposed to take you seriously when you apologize for current fanatical muslim attrocities because Christians were similar centuries ago.  I bet you justify Bush's spying on civilians because Clinton did it too, right?  

Please stop parroting my posts - it's flattering but also embarrassing.    

[run_to_win]

run_to_win, take your time and google up some more pictures to add.

Are you sure you're not on dial-up?

Imitation is the highest form of flattery.  You honor me.

I didn't google up the sophomoric picture.  I was exploring the site from which you got the "pot calling the kettle black" picture from.  I was hoping that it would have a better "sticks and stones" picture.  Being that you're from San Francisco I thought about using the "Fagotville" picture but it really wasn't relevant and the misspellings in the text were unprofessional. 

Is that your site?  I think I saw some pictures of you. 

[Spider-Dan]

Sorry, I didn't realize that we're supposed to take you seriously when you apologize for current fanatical muslim attrocities because Christians were similar centuries ago.

When did I apologize for current Muslim fanatics?  That's right, I didn't.

The point I was making was that you were trying to pretend that intolerant, murderous regimes and terrorist fanatics are completely foreign to Christianity (to wit: "Christian radicals do not have terrorist cells"), in spite of the facts that a) when Christianity controlled governments to the extent that Islam does now, they were at least as bad, and b) the IRA is a fully-qualified radical Christian terrorist organization that just happens to be in a current state of cease-fire (since 1997).

So if you want to bash terrorist organizations, don't try to play the "my religion is one of peace and understanding" card, because it isn't.  If you want to add up the totals, your religion leaves theirs in the dust when it comes to atrocities.

[CF DolFan]

Way to put it in perspective Frimp.  You understand.
Please show me the "Christian rep" who encouraged, supported, funded, masterminded the abortion clinic bombings.  Please show me the "Christian rep" who praised God in the wake of such a bombing.

As soon as Muslims track down and prosecute terrorists on their own like Christians do bombers THEN this may be a valid comparison.

Yes, we all have our fanatics.  There are many differences though.  We do not cower in fear from our fanatics.  We do not fund our fanatics.  We do not follow our fanatics blindly.  Insert weak Bush joke here. 

Every abortion clinic bombed is done so in the name of Jesus Christ. There are many groups, cells etc operating throughout the US ... especially the Northwest and South ... who think it is biblicly correct to kill "fags" and "abortionists". And they do this in the name of Jesus Christ ... MY LORD AND SAVIOR!  This doesn't mean it is actually what Jesus wants wants but the same nutbags that claims it fit into the same catagory as Hamas and Al Qada.

People have been using religion to support their causes since day one. Unfortunately Christianity has been used in some of the worst atrocities of all time. It doesn't mean that Chrisianity actually promotes whatever violence the people are partaking in. I'm most certain my bible does not back up the crusades nor Hitler's version of an ideal race based on the Lord's will.

Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself.


If you are claiming yourself a Christian but denounce any wrongdoing... even still today in the name of Christianity... then you are no better than the people who are doing such atrocities.  If you are just wanting to argue semantics, then you are young and ignorant and that can in no way be overcome by reason and intelligent conversation.

[Househead]

Religion = 

Religious fanatics (regardless which religion) =      

Now, and I am sure Sunstroke would agree, why can't we all just take a bong hit or two (or three) and all get along? People that justify hurting or slaying others in the name of their God, that believe in the "my religion is better than your religion" rhetoric, or otherwise are just religiously intolerant should go rot in hell.

[ADeadSmitty]

People that justify hurting or slaying others in the name of their God, that believe in the "my religion is better than your religion" rhetoric, or otherwise are just religiously intolerant should go rot in hell.

Now that is irony.

[run_to_win]

When did I apologize for current Muslim fanatics?  That's right, I didn't.

YOU'RE offended by someone putting words in your mouth?  Now that's funny!  

This hatred/guilt you have is going to eat you up.  You really should seek help.

You never did answer if that's your website or not.  

[run_to_win]

yada yada yada - Christians did it too.

Who stopped Hitler and saved the Jews?  CHRISTIANS/CATHOLICS/FROG LOVERS!

Who pursues and prosecutes abortion clinic bombers and "fag" killers?  CHRISTIANS!

This is the difference that I'm trying to point out.  The haters are refusing to acknowledge it.

[Spider-Dan]

Who jails terrorists in their own countries?  The Muslims!

So it's all OK, then!

Are you seriously claiming that if a group of, say, Hindus goes out and slaughters Buddhists (for example), and then another group of Hindus stops them, the net overall result is, "Great job, Hindus!"?

I mean, sure, Christian nations persecute and falsely burned witches at the stake for centuries, but it was other Christians who put a stop to it.  So really, we should be praising Christianity for putting an end to witch burning!  Right?

[runtheball]

How much longer are there going to be people who will make excuses for this so-called religion of peace (all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding) by saying "they all do it"? 

I guess it'll take a mushroom cloud over NYC to convince some...

[runtheball]

BS. I have seen muslim clerics denounce attacks many times, but who gets the bigger press coverage, radicals, or denouncers?


I have had debates about this very thing many times, and have tried to find examples of clerics expressing outrage.  Can you provide links or some other direction to find these examples of outrage ?

[Spider-Dan]

How much longer are there going to be people who will make excuses for this so-called religion of peace (all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding) by saying "they all do it"?

Who's making excuses?  I completely agree that Islam is a religion founded on violence and intolerance.  Just like Christianity (<--- this is the part you have a problem with).

You want to denounce Islam as a religion that supports atrocities?  No objection here.  But don't turn around and, in the same breath, talk about how your religion is so shiny and wholesome.

BS. I have seen muslim clerics denounce attacks many times, but who gets the bigger press coverage, radicals, or denouncers?

I can say the exact same thing about Christian fundamentalists and abortion clinic bombers.

Where's Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell's unequivocal denouncement of those people?  Hmmm.

[run_to_win]

Oh Spider - some how we just don't speak the same language.  No matter what I say you just want to twist it around and argue some more.  I don't know if it's a language-barrier or if you're just doing it intentionally for cheap thrills.  Either way, I give up.

[Phishfan]

Christian radicals do not have terrorist cells.

When these organizations begin homocide bombings THEN I'll see your point.

Salvation Army
Church World Service
Lutheran World Relief 
Bread for the World 
World Vision International@ 
World Relief

They may not be true Christians, but if you don't believe there are terrorists acting in the name of Christianity you are dead wrong. If you truly believe that you would be completely denouncing abortion clinic bombings, sniper shootings of doctors, death threats to Terry Schiavo's husband. All of these do exist in the name of "Christianity".