QB rumors

[Phishfan]

yeah FYO, he pulled a gun on some peeps.  i don't blame him for the underage girls....he was like 19 or so, and they were liek 15 or 16.....theres really nothing wrong with that these days...

He did not learn a lesson from it though. I have insider knowledge (from VA Tech) that Marcus could still be seen around campus (and even reportedly at high school campuses) with girls of questionable age. I agree that typically a 19 year old with a 15 year old can be a not so big deal. But in this situation I think it was. Would you want your 15 year old daughter hanging out with college football players (Marcus was not the only one involved) with the resources of Michael Vicks' brother?

[MUCPhin]

what about Omar Jacobs?  Scouts say his supposed "awkward" throwing motion is much improved in the combine.

[Sunstroke]

what about Omar Jacobs?  Scouts say his supposed "awkward" throwing motion is much improved in the combine.

He still has a low release point, but it definitely looks like something he's been consciously working on. I like Omar, just on physical skills alone. He's tall (6'4"), has a strong arm and enough mobility to move around the pocket (not much of a scrambler though). My questions on Omar have to do more with:

Mechanics: Can he continue to elevate his release point? Nothing negates a tall QB's height advantage more than a low release point. Passes get knocked down at the line a lot unless you get the release up there.

Experience: Hasn't played against top competition at the college level, and the few good defenses he faced did a decent job of containing him. He also wasn't in a passing system that threw the ball downfield very much, Bowling Green ran more of the WCO dink and dunk short routes.

Injuries: Hurt his shoulder late in the season (same one he hurt in his sophomore season) but came back from the injury to post two good performances down the stretch. The fact that he had multiple injuries to his throwing shoulder is a concern though.

[Dave Gray]

I would love for the Jets to get Ramsey.  How legit is this info?

[Sunstroke]

The fact that the Jets are talking about Ramsey is totally legit. Whether that pans out into a deal to send Ramsey to Suckville (New York) or not is another story.

[fyo]

yeah FYO, he pulled a gun on some peeps.  i don't blame him for the underage girls....he was like 19 or so, and they were liek 15 or 16.....theres really nothing wrong with that these days...

Let's just wait and see what happens with the gun issue. Elements of the case stink and I think there's a decent chance nothing of the sort happened. One of the guys he supposedly waved the gun at has since been arrested for grand theft and possession with intent to sell (those were two seperate arrests). Police searched his home and car within hours of the event and found no evidence of a gun. Yet everyone seems to just automatically believe he did it.

That particular incident is such a far cry from what M.Vick has otherwise been accused of / done, that I don't think it makes sense to base any sense of guilt on those previous incidents. Would people have been as quick to believe the story had it been a clean-cut player, with no previous brushes with the law, accused of waving a gun at a drug dealer and his posse.

[run_to_win]

yeah FYO, he pulled a gun on some peeps....

He's ACCUSED of pulling a gun.  He claims he was holding a cell phone.  The mistake is not unheard of.  It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out. 

I heard one expert say that he'll go in the 6th or 7th round.... or to Denver in the 3rd. 

[run_to_win]

He did not learn a lesson from it though. I have insider knowledge (from VA Tech) that Marcus could still be seen around campus (and even reportedly at high school campuses) with girls of questionable age. I agree that typically a 19 year old with a 15 year old can be a not so big deal. But in this situation I think it was. Would you want your 15 year old daughter hanging out with college football players (Marcus was not the only one involved) with the resources of Michael Vicks' brother?

Now that he's projected as a late 2nd day pick?  No way!  Before the trouble, hell yeah!  Do you realize how much millionaires are expected to pay in child-support?   

[Brian Fein]

...or to Denver in the 3rd.

I thought the exact same thing!

[fyo]

The gun-matter should, at least from a legal standpoint, be settled by the time of the draft. Providing he's not actually found guilty, I wouldn't mind using our third rounder on him... (bring on the flack)

[Sunstroke]

That wouldn't be good for you. If the Jets don't take D'Brick, he's all for the Niners.

I seriously doubt that D'Brickashaw will drop to #6 (I like the sound of that better than #7) under any scenario, based solely on the value that most franchises place on monster left tackles.

I think the possibility exists for Cutler to slide down out of the top-10, if the FAs fall right and other first round prospects impress those top-10 pick GMs between now and April. I don't think there is a snowball's chance in hell of Saban getting Cutler without trading up into the #9-12 pick area though.

[Philly Fin Fan]

I think the possibility exists for Cutler to slide down out of the top-10, if the FAs fall right and other first round prospects impress those top-10 pick GMs between now and April. I don't think there is a snowball's chance in hell of Saban getting Cutler without trading up into the #9-12 pick area though.

I don't think he makes it past Oakland at #7.

[Sunstroke]

I don't think he makes it past Oakland at #7.

I think that Oakland slipping to #7 on the coin flip could actually have an effect on Miami's chances to get Cutler. Here are a couple of scenarios I see for the #5-#7 slots, based off the two most likely picks for GB at #5 (assuming front four goes Bush-Leinart-Young-Ferguson in some order):

Scenario #1: #5 GB takes DE Mario Williams, #6 SF takes CB Jimmy Williams, Oakland takes LB A.J. Hawk

I believe this is the most likely scenario at this point, given the fact that both Williams and Hawk impressed about equally at the combine for their respective positions (though Hawk did all drills/tests, while Mario skipped some), and GB really needs that pass rusher on the end. SF, despite Hawk still being on the board, has 4 players they want to come out of round one with: Both elite DBs (Huff being the other), Mario Williams and TE Vernon Davis*. If they can't get a team to trade up from the 9-12 area (where I expect both elite DBs and Davis to be off the board by), I think they'll stick and stay with Jimmy Williams. Oakland would be in heaven, because they do really need a LB, and Hawk has that attitude that Al Davis likes. Art Shell will like him too. This pops Cutler out of the top-7, but with Buffalo, Arizona, Detroit, Cleveland and Baltimore still between #7 and Miami, Saban will still have to find a deal to move up. If he doesn't call the SF front office at some point just to stick a toe in the water, I'd be surprised.

Scenario #2: GB takes A.J. Hawk, SF takes Mario Williams, Oakland takes...Cutler?

If Mario Williams is still available at #6, I think Nolan will have a major decision on his hands. DE and DB are equally SF's two most pressing needs, but despite his affection for Jimmy Williams, I don't think he'd be able to pass on Mario. If neither Hawk or Mario are there for the Raiders, they could go 3 or 4 different directions (Cutler, J-Williams, Ngata?). QB is nowhere near Oakland's biggest need (defense, defense and more defense), but since when has that stopped Al Davis from reaching for a player he likes?

It's a long way to April though...I'm going to go light an aqua and orange candle now in the sincere hope that most of the Buf-AZ-Det-Cle-Balt-Oak crowd gets jiggy with the FA QBs out there and eliminate a lot of Cutler's potential suitors. 

[Predatory_Fins]

why?!?!!!! Someone explain this to me, please


Dolphins Players Trying To Recruit McNair...
Posted on: 2006-02-28
Steve McNair [Miami Herald] Several Dolphins players have either talked or plan to talk to Tennessee quarterback Steve McNair about possibly playing in Miami if he is released by the Titans this offseason.

The latest was receiver Chris Chambers who saw McNair when both played for the AFC in the Pro Bowl this month.

''I talked to McNair, and the subject of him coming down here came up,'' Chambers said. ``I saw him there, and he looked strong, and he looked healthy, and he said he wanted to play a couple of more years. So I told him to think about coming to town.''

Chambers didn't need work too hard to sell McNair on the idea of playing for Miami.

''All he said was he loves the weather down here,'' Chambers said. ``He said that was already on his mind.'

[Philly Fin Fan]

why?!?!!!! Someone explain this to me, please

I agree with you Pred. If we were talking about McNair from 5 years ago, that'd be fine with me. But he is past his prime now. I'd rather stick with the old guy we already have, who at least is comfortable with the team and the playbook, and draft a young guy.