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« on: April 14, 2006, 09:47:45 am »

The NFL draft's lone highly regarded "big" back may be an even bigger gamble now for any team that selects LenDale White, but at least scouts know the other half of the stellar Southern California tailback tandem had a legitimate reason for not participating in the school's recent pro day auditions.


An MRI examination has revealed that White, whose stock has fallen because of his inability to work out for scouts, has a right hamstring tear that will sideline him for about another month and preclude him from running. That means any team selecting White will do so without the benefit of a 40-yard time, typically an important component of the draft evaluation puzzle.

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LenDale White probably feels vindicated, but the revelation that he has a hamstring tear near the pelvic area could cost him any chance of getting selected in the first round.

White's representatives on Thursday evening confirmed the MRI results, which were initially reported by the Denver Post.

"The problem LenDale faced was that he knew something wasn't right [with his hamstring]," said agent Eugene Parker, "but there was still pressure to try to run. But had he run just to satisfy people and torn the thing up again, then things would have been even worse than they are now."

How bad things are for White, who bypassed his final season of college eligibility to enter the draft and was projected as a high first-round selection, remains to be seen. Certainly it is a problem for White and for the several teams that coveted him as a first-rounder. Those teams viewed White as the lone power back with a first-round grade.
 
While the MRI result vindicates White, who told ESPN.com two weeks ago that he initially injured the hamstring while performing a Cybex test at the league scouting combine in late February, it still leaves scouts with an incomplete assessment of the former Trojans star.

Most teams are reluctant to invest millions of dollars in a player who has not been fully evaluated. Of course, scouts also contend that the true measure of a prospect's ability and potential at the NFL level is his body of work on the field in college and not how well he performs in predraft workouts that occur in shorts and T-shirts.


Dr. Randall Eldridge, a Denver-area chiropractor who specializes in treatment of musculoskeletal injuries and who conducted the MRI exam, said that White will recover but will probably be sidelined until mid-May. Under that scenario, White would not only be precluded from doing any more evaluation-type work before the draft but would also probably miss the rookie orientation session or mini-camp weekend of the club that takes him. Eldridge diagnosed the injury as a "moderate" tear near the pelvic region.


"I could see where he would have been in considerable pain had he tried to run," Eldridge said.


At the USC pro day on April 2, White knelt on one knee for much of the proceedings, dressed in a track suit. He took off the top of the track suit to participate in the bench press, the only drill in which White took part. White managed only 15 repetitions of the standard 225-pound bench press, a performance that was considered disappointing. By comparison, Heisman Trophy teammate Reggie Bush, a much smaller back, did 24 lifts.


Almost as concerning to scouts as White's inability to perform at the pro day was his weight of 244 pounds, six pounds heavier than he weighed at the combine. But White suggested that he actually weighed far more, 252 pounds, for the Rose Bowl national championship game against Texas.


"I've just got to get right [physically] and then I'll be fine and do everything they want me to do," White said at the time. "But right now I'm not right."


White indicated at the time he planned to return to his native Denver, meet with specialists there to gauge the severity of his hamstring problem and then hopefully work out for scouts before the draft. That will not be the case now.


In his three college seasons, White carried 541 times for 3,159 yards and 52 touchdowns. He also added 31 receptions for 331 yards and five touchdowns. A strong runner between the tackles and bullish when he got into the secondary, he ran for more than 1,000 yards in both 2004 and 2005 and was a perfect complement to the more elusive Bush.


Len Pasquarelli is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com.

 


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2407977
 

 
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2006, 10:08:13 am »

This guy has killed his draft status. I was watching last night as Clayton "broke" this story and everyone seemed to agree that they expect White to fall very far and possibly out of round one.
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2006, 10:14:25 am »

well lucky for the donkos now, they can grab him with their 2nd pick!
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2006, 10:29:13 am »

well lucky for the donkos now, they can grab him with their 2nd pick!
Maroney or bust !
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2006, 10:53:26 am »

Quentin Griffin, Tatum Bell, LenDale White?

How the tables have turned...
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2006, 11:10:34 am »

Quentin Griffin, Tatum Bell, LenDale White?

How the tables have turned...
John Avery ?
Can't remember Tatum or Quentin being drafted in round 1. Tatum Bell had a better season the Ronnie Brown with half the carries. Keep smoking.
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2006, 11:35:17 am »

Should I add Maurice Clarett to the list?

No one said anything about round 1, I'm simply pointing out the stable of RB's Shanny has drafted lately that are all bums.
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2006, 11:44:30 am »

Should I add Maurice Clarett to the list?

No one said anything about round 1, I'm simply pointing out the stable of RB's Shanny has drafted lately that are all bums.
So by your reasoning Ronnie Brown is a bum. Tatum Bell, better season. Look it up. We have so many bums that we manage to be in the top 5 in rushing EVERY season. You were 12....enjoy it....
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2006, 02:12:54 pm »


LenDale won't get picked in round one any more...he is going to flip into the second round.

...and Tatum Bell, despite his numbers in Denver's system, is NOWHERE NEAR the quality RB that Ronnie Brown is. He never will be either...he doesn't have the physical skills that Ronnie has, and is far more brittle.

Denver will be taking Maroney anyways...By this time next offseason, Tatum Bell will be a barely-remembered afterthought,



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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2006, 02:17:17 pm »

...and Tatum Bell, despite his numbers in Denver's system, is NOWHERE NEAR the quality RB that Ronnie Brown is. He never will be either...he doesn't have the physical skills that Ronnie has, and is far more brittle.

Thanks for the info. I was unaware that your perception of a running back is based on potential rather then the actual numbers. 
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2006, 02:22:18 pm »

Thanks for the info. I was unaware that your perception of a running back is based on potential rather then the actual numbers.

Not what I said at all...if you really want to know what I judge a RB's talent level on...it's talent level. How they play, how fast, how strong, how good their hands are out of the backfield, how well they pick up the blitz, et al.

You can consider potential for comparison purposes if you like...I'll stick to talent. Talent-wise, Tatum Bell can't carry Ronnie's jock...


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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2006, 03:03:52 pm »

Not what I said at all...if you really want to know what I judge a RB's talent level on...it's talent level. How they play, how fast, how strong, how good their hands are out of the backfield, how well they pick up the blitz, et al.

You can consider potential for comparison purposes if you like...I'll stick to talent. Talent-wise, Tatum Bell can't carry Ronnie's jock...



Well statistically Ronnie can't carry Tatums when he has 40 more carries to do it....
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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2006, 03:15:34 pm »

I'm sorry comparing Tatum Bell to Ronnie Brown (To ME) is like trying to compare Dave Meggett to Earl Campbell. They're 2 totally different type backs.....

Tatum Bell,will make you look stupid,and shake you out of your jock.
Ronnie Brown,you think your delivering the blow,when in reality your just a speed bump in his way.....

oops,I forgot to mention Lendale White,considering the thread IS about him....

The bad hamstring,doesn't mean you stop working out...He didn't lift that well,and looked waaay out of shape...I think that is the biggest factor in his dropping...not the running...
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2006, 09:41:40 pm »

Tatum Bell had what, like 5 runs of 70 yards or more.  When you put up 350 yards on 5 carries, its easy to have over-inflated numbers.

Try a new defense.  You know Tatum Bell is a scrub.
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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2006, 12:06:16 am »

take Tatum Bell when he was a rookie (300 something yards) and put him behind the O-Line that ronnie gained 900+ yards behind last year and see who's the better back. or better yet, put ronnie in denver for his rookie season and he could have gained several hundred more than he did, and he would have won ROTY, especially if he was competing for carries with Mike Anderson instead of a far more skilled counterpart in Ricky Williams.
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