Dolphin Draft disasters

[Dolarltexas]

While the Dolphins are making us all cry, why don't we decide who was the worst draft pick in history of the Dolphins?  My vote--Eddie Blake.   

Other 'contenders':  Jackie Shipp, Jamar Fletcher, Sammie (Sucks) Smith, Billy Milner, Eddie Moore, and Eric Kumerow.

In a vote like this, I guess the guy who gets the fewest votes is the winner.

[Frimp]

See Ring of Dishonor...Yatil Green.
http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/dishonor.html

[YoFuggedaboutit]

Welcome to the boards Dolarltexas.  When you get a chance, please tell us about yourself in the Off Topic forum.

There are quite a bit of players that are deserving of this award.  I'll name a few that aren't in the Ring of Dishonor:

Eric Kumerow
Jackie Shipp
Billy Milner
John Avery
Eddie Moore
Jamar Fletcher

[run_to_win]

Kumerow played several years.  Fletcher is still in the league.  While both disappointments, they're the "stars" of this list.

Sammie Smith reminds me of Ryan Leaf.  Both had all the talent to succeed, just not the mental strength.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

Kumerow played several years.  Fletcher is still in the league.  While both disappointments, they're the "stars" of this list.

Sammie Smith reminds me of Ryan Leaf.  Both had all the talent to succeed, just not the mental strength.

You can add a bad attitude to that too. 

[The_Phinatic]

I still don't understand all the playa hatin on Yatil Green.  The guy was injured.  It's not like he was lazy.  It's not like he quit one year like one player in our history did.  It's not like he played and never lived up to his talent.  He tore his ACL twice.  Career over.   Chalk it up as bad luck.

[Brian Fein]

I still don't understand all the playa hatin on Yatil Green.  The guy was injured.  It's not like he was lazy.  It's not like he quit one year like one player in our history did.  It's not like he played and never lived up to his talent.  He tore his ACL twice.  Career over.   Chalk it up as bad luck.

Doesn't that, by definition, make him a "busted draft pick?"

I don't think anyone is "playa hatin'" Yatil cause of lack of talent, but because he never contributed to the team (for whatever reason)

[fyo]

I don't think anyone is "playa hatin'" Yatil cause of lack of talent, but because he never contributed to the team (for whatever reason)

When you stick someone in the Ring of Dishonor, that sounds pretty personal. IMO, you don't deserve a spot there if your failure to produce was solely due to bad luck (injury).

[Brian Fein]

When you stick someone in the Ring of Dishonor, that sounds pretty personal. IMO, you don't deserve a spot there if your failure to produce was solely due to bad luck (injury).

Not necessarily.  He's there because he was drafted to be our WR of the future.  He caused the team a long-term handicap due to his consistent injuries.  We passed on a lot of good WR talent (including Randy Moss) in drafts due to his presence, and when his presence netted the team zero gain, he becomes a ROD inductee.

[run_to_win]

I still don't understand all the playa hatin on Yatil Green.  The guy was injured.  It's not like he was lazy.  It's not like he quit one year like one player in our history did.  It's not like he played and never lived up to his talent.  He tore his ACL twice.  Career over.   Chalk it up as bad luck.

I agree.

There should be some distinction for injured players such as Green (and Bosa, who usually comes up in topics such as this).

[fyo]

Not necessarily.  He's there because he was drafted to be our WR of the future.  He caused the team a long-term handicap due to his consistent injuries.  We passed on a lot of good WR talent (including Randy Moss) in drafts due to his presence, and when his presence netted the team zero gain, he becomes a ROD inductee.

Bad luck for us, sure, but how does being injured affect the guy's honor? He neither dishonored himself nor us, as far as I can tell - unlike A LOT of other current and former Dolphins players I could mention...

[The_Phinatic]

Yatil had nothing to do with the Moss draft.  Avery was drafted during the Moss draft.  JJ traded down instead of seeing who was available and missed out on Moss or Vonnie Holliday.

Yatil was picked in the middle of the first round, not the top.  And, the team desperately needed a WR. 

I don't agree with the definition of draft bust applying to people who get hurt.  Technically, they are a bust because they don't do anything, so I see why it applies, but I don't hold a grudge against a kid who gets his ACL torn. 

Ryan Leaf wasn't a bust because of injury.  I don't think Yatil and Leaf are even close in comparison.  The situations are completely different and Leaf is forever going to be an ass because of his antics.  Yatil is just a guy who got hurt and never got to play.  He's not even near the top IMO compared to guys like Avery and Fletcher who had plenty of playing time but just flat out sucked.

I guess you could say John Offerdahl, Bob Baumhower, and Dwight Stephenson were busts too because they never maximzed their potential because injuries cut their careers short  .

[YoFuggedaboutit]

Yatil had nothing to do with the Moss draft.  Avery was drafted during the Moss draft.  JJ traded down instead of seeing who was available and missed out on Moss or Vonnie Holliday.

Yatil was picked in the middle of the first round, not the top.  And, the team desperately needed a WR. 

I don't agree with the definition of draft bust applying to people who get hurt.  Technically, they are a bust because they don't do anything, so I see why it applies, but I don't hold a grudge against a kid who gets his ACL torn. 

Ryan Leaf wasn't a bust because of injury.  I don't think Yatil and Leaf are even close in comparison.  The situations are completely different and Leaf is forever going to be an ass because of his antics.  Yatil is just a guy who got hurt and never got to play.  He's not even near the top IMO compared to guys like Avery and Fletcher who had plenty of playing time but just flat out sucked.

I guess you could say John Offerdahl, Bob Baumhower, and Dwight Stephenson were busts too because they never maximzed their potential because injuries cut their careers short  .

The thing about Yatil was he was a "soft" player who was always injury prone.  I knew a guy who lived in Lake City and dated his older sister.  The guy said Yatil could get hurt without taking a good, solid whack.  Additionally, when he was at UM, he would have nagging shoulder and hamstring injuries.  Sure enough, he comes to the Dolphins and tears his knee up twice without ever getting hit. 

[run_to_win]

I don't think Yatil and Leaf are even close in comparison.

Did someone say they were?

[Spider-Dan]

By the logic used to qualify Green for the ROD, if Jamar Fletcher happened to be in the WTC on 9/11, he would be in the ROD.

I have never agreed with the logic used to put Green in the ROD.  Injuries are out of a player's control.